diff --git a/data/webs/physical-instances/characters/other-player.json b/data/webs/physical-instances/characters/other-player.json
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..2044713
--- /dev/null
+++ b/data/webs/physical-instances/characters/other-player.json
@@ -0,0 +1,19 @@
+{
+    "tag" : "other-player",
+    "nodes" : {
+        "0" : {
+            "id" : 0,
+            "name" : "Other"
+        }
+    },
+    "relations" : {
+        "0" : {
+            "comment" : "The other is an instance of a person",
+            "id" : 3,
+            "name" : "instanceOf",
+            "parent" : 0,
+            "parentWeb" : "person",
+            "child" : 0
+        }
+    }
+}
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diff --git a/data/webs/physical-instances/conversations/convo1.json b/data/webs/physical-instances/conversations/convo1.json
index 78af0d7..f167009 100644
--- a/data/webs/physical-instances/conversations/convo1.json
+++ b/data/webs/physical-instances/conversations/convo1.json
@@ -20,8 +20,8 @@
             "id" : 4,
             "name" : "participantOf",
             "parent" : 0,
-            "child" : 4,
-            "childWeb" : "root"
+            "child" : 0,
+            "childWeb" : "other-player"
         },
         "5" : {
             "comment" : "The current conversation has the self as a participant",
@@ -34,6 +34,7 @@
     },
     "dependencies" : [
         "./data/webs/physical-instances/characters/bert-self.json",
+        "./data/webs/physical-instances/characters/other-player.json",
         "./data/webs/root.json"
     ]
 }
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/data/webs/root.json b/data/webs/root.json
index 9ba5ce2..dd13482 100644
--- a/data/webs/root.json
+++ b/data/webs/root.json
@@ -1,24 +1,12 @@
 {
     "tag" : "root",
     "nodes" : {
-        "4" : {
-            "id" : 4,
-            "name" : "Other"
-        },
         "8" : {
             "id" : 8,
             "name" : "hat"
         }
     },
     "relations" : {
-        "3" : {
-            "comment" : "The other is an instance of a person",
-            "id" : 3,
-            "name" : "instanceOf",
-            "parent" : 0,
-            "parentWeb" : "person",
-            "child" : 4
-        },
         "8" : {
             "comment" : "hat is an instance of a concept",
             "id" : 8,